Ankerson/Sanders Bowie

Jim revieved his production sample and posted pics on the Spyderco forum:

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Not a bad looking camp knife design to me, though not one I'm likely to purchase myself, primarily due to cost and the surfeit of fixed blades I already have that fill this niche.

I don't know a lot about 4V, but I suspect with nearly 4% Vanadium, ease of sharpening and repairing damage to the edge may be a concern for some users, though that hasn't seemed to be a deterrent for proponents of 3V or even D2 in this type of blade. 4V is also touted as having relatively high impact toughness, but what I don't know is, "Compared to what?"

The handles appear nicely contoured with all of the edges rounded, but they still appear somewhat square and blockish to me. This may be deceptive vs. the actual feeling in hand, and I may be somewhat spoiled by the fully rounded scales on my knives from Busse. Still maybe an interesting contrast to other Spyderco fixed blades which appear to be significantly more rounded, like the Temperance 2, Serrata, or the upcoming Respect bowie, among others.

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-Nate

Looks like a nice blade. That's awesome that Spyderco built a knife that a user designed. I think they have done it before, but I still am impressed.

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Definitely. I think it's really cool that Spyderco is willing to consider design submissions from practically anyone, whether they're well-known, little-known, or just someone with an idea.

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I don't know a lot about 4V, but I suspect with nearly 4% Vanadium, ease of sharpening and repairing damage to the edge may be a concern for some users, though that hasn't seemed to be a deterrent for proponents of 3V or even D2 in this type of blade. 4V is also touted as having relatively high impact toughness, but what I don't know is, "Compared to what?

This one was 61HRC decent but not optimal ht imo.
Edge stability test at 30deg incl.
At high temper is tougher without LN quench. This was with LN.
The first test is measuring "something" (he corrected later and measures edge deformations differently now)
than chopping is just free hand but he does 30 hit each time w each knife perhaps definitely
force and speed varies significantly between tests...

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That's based on a design by Darrin Sanders correct? If so, Jim reviewed a custom of it in 10v over on bladeforums a couple years ago. And then I believe Darrin did a run of them in 4v.

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Well, I'm pretty sure it's not a collab with Colonel Sanders lol.

The review is actually linked in the OP of the thread you linked above. Jim states "This is a Collaberation between Darrin Sanders and I." They share credit on Spyderco's production version as well.

Looks like the same knife minus the bolsters. The prototype was also in 10v vs. the current 4v.

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I'm well aware Ryan, and don't object to you linking that video. I certainly have personal feelings about these two getting a production knife with Spyderco after what happened on their forum and over at KnifeDogs that I deliberately left out of the OP, in an attempt to respect Cliff's rules.

When I started this thread, I was trying to strip all that out and think objectively about the design itself and whether it was something I would otherwise be interested in, and was curious others here might think.

-Nate

Oh no worries Nate, I just read Sanders and my mind instantly went to the video.

I actually find the design really attractive, especially the custom/bolstered versions, but nor the steel nor the makers/designers interest me.

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I like the design except the finger guard on the lower part has reversed radius towards the edge.
Seen some outdoor bowies like this.. pretty classic but absence of sharpening choil
is kinda odd on this type od knife. Also dont like to hold corrosive steel and sweat on it..
The classic hidden tang w a proper choil and a guard will make a better knife.
Sometimes everything is already designed after decades or thousands of years..
But this is easier to make and steel mark will sell it

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I do think it's kinda funny that they picked 4V as the steel. I can hear the thought process now:

"I think we should use 4V."

"Why?"

"Well because 3V is really cool and 4V has even more V inside. It's obviously the perfect choice."

Considering the proto was in 10v, the choice of 4v seems rather restrained by comparison.

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Considering the proto was in 10v, the choice of 4v seems rather restrained by comparison.

Haha, well then yeah, they at least made a better choice than they could have.

"What about 10V?"

"Nah, too many V's."

Your posts just reminded me of this. Maybe a very tenuous connection, but it still made me laugh:

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuzpsO4ErOQ[/video]

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Your posts just reminded me of this. Maybe a very tenuous connection, but it still made me laugh:

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuzpsO4ErOQ[/video]

Ok but they didnt even made it 9 but only 4..

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Your posts just reminded me of this. Maybe a very tenuous connection, but it still made me laugh:

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuzpsO4ErOQ[/video]

Yes, precisely.